At This Time
Recruiting is like running a marathon where the route keeps changing, the finish line moves, and someone tells you halfway through, “Actually, we’ve decided it’s a pie eating contest now” At This Time takes you inside the wild world of hiring, with stories from recruiters and job seekers navigating the madness. Join Eric as he unpacks ghosting candidates, surprise curveballs, and the occasional perfect fit. Whether you’re chasing talent or your next job, this podcast delivers humor, insights, and all the real talk you didn’t know you needed.
Episodes

May 5, 2025
May 5, 2025
10 min
At This Time... we’re stepping into the high-stakes world of national security with strategist and 20-year veteran Asha Castleberry-Hernandez. From ROTC to the State Department to think tanks and startups, Asha breaks down the many on-ramps into this elusive field—including how educators and STEM pros can pivot in. Want in on defense contracts, military cybersecurity gigs, or behind-the-scenes job boards? This episode’s your classified briefing.
Hosts: Eric DeSobe; IG: / edesobeGuest: Asha Castleberry-Hernandez; IG / ashacastleberry
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May 2, 2025
May 2, 2025
12 min
Eric reconnects with recruiter Jake Sohn to talk shop on what’s working—and what needs to go—in the world of hiring. From the myth of “culture fit” to the power of a well-placed thank-you note, Jake shares smart tips for both recruiters and candidates navigating today’s weird job market. They also cover why negotiation is non-negotiable and how LinkedIn can actually work in your favor.
Host: Eric DeSobe; IG: / edesobe
Guest: Jake Sohn; add him on LinkedIn
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Apr 28, 2025
Apr 28, 2025
13 min
Eric chats with longtime friend and educator Will Wong, whose weekly LinkedIn CA K-12 senior executive jobs list job has become a must-read for thousands. What started as a way to give back has turned into a full-on talent ecosystem—connecting educators with roles and shaping how people think about leadership in public schools. They explore trends in executive turnover, the power of community, and why more educators should consider stepping into district leadership. Plus, Will shares how he uses LinkedIn without losing his soul to the algorithm.
Host: Eric DeSobe; IG: / edesobe
Guest: William Wong; add him on LinkedIn at "Mr. Will Wong"
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Apr 24, 2025
Apr 24, 2025
11 min
At This Time, we’re diving into the high-stakes world of nonprofit leadership hires. Kyle Gracey joins the show to share why boards need more than good intentions when recruiting executive directors—and why vibes don’t count as a hiring process. From micromanagement traps to onboarding strategies that actually work, this episode is packed with practical, witty wisdom for board members who want to get it right.
Host: Eric DeSobe; IG: / edesobe
Guest: Kyle Gracey; add him on LinkedIn
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Apr 21, 2025
Apr 21, 2025
12 min
At This Time, Eric talks with Arturo Natella, a recruiting expert who’s flipped the script on hiring by focusing on outcomes, not guesswork. Arturo breaks down why copy-paste job descriptions and vague interviews lead to bad hires—and how to fix them. They dive into performance-based hiring, reference check red flags, and what candidates should look for to build real career mobility. Whether you're hiring or job hunting, this one’s full of tough love and tactical gems. Check out his company Amaru.
Host: Eric DeSobe; IG: / edesobe
Guest: Arturo Natella; add him on LinkedIn
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Apr 16, 2025
Apr 16, 2025
11 min
At This Time, Eric talks with Anika Manzoor, a nonprofit leader-turned-job-seeker who's navigating the current job market with candor, creativity, and a well-worn Google Doc. They dig into the emotional toll of job hunting, how to lean on your network, and why stepping away from leadership might be the power move. From ChatGPT-powered prep to mock interviews that actually work, Anika shares real talk for anyone stuck in the search.
Host: Eric DeSobe; IG: / edesobe
Guest: Anika Manzoor; add her on LinkedIn
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Apr 14, 2025
Apr 14, 2025
9 min
On this episode of At This Time, Eric sits down with Yasi Agah to flip the script — diving into what it really feels like to be the candidate in today’s wild job market. From solo ferry rides in New York City to ChatGPT-crafted cover letters, Yasi shares her strategies for staying sane and standing out. They explore how to structure your job hunt like a full-time gig, the rise of performance tasks in interviews, and creative ways to turn cold applications warm. If you've ever felt like job searching is a second job (without benefits), this one's for you.
Host: Eric DeSobe; IG: / edesobe
Guest: Yasi Agah; add her on LinkedIn
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Apr 2, 2025
Apr 2, 2025
14 min
At this time, we're talking with Michael Castaneda, Senior Business Partner for Talent Acquisition at Chandon, a winery in Napa. After 8 years in the recruitment world, Michael knows plenty about what a good resume is and isn't, how to manage tough interviews, and when to negotiate an offer. Come for the insight and stay for the sparking wine recommendations.
Host: Eric DeSobe; IG: / edesobe
Michael Castaneda; add him on LinkedIn
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Apr 2, 2025
Apr 2, 2025
13 min
Alex Horowitz on Meeting the AI Moment in Talent | At This Time Podcast
At this time, we're talking with Alex Horowitz, Chief Program Officer at AI for Equity Recruiter, on all the AI things filling up your newsfeed. He trains and support talent leaders who work in school systems on adoption best practices. He's learned a ton and if you work in recruitment in any profession, check out his thoughts and wonderings.
Host: Eric DeSobe; IG: / edesobe
Guest: Alex Horowitz; find at https://ai-for-equity.org/
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Mar 26, 2025
Mar 26, 2025
14 min
At this time, we're talking with Taylor Bostock, Principal at Edgility, on the differences between recruiting as a solo contractor vs working with search firm. Also, don't miss her thoughts on acing your interview and why everyone needs a pep talk when job hunting.
Hosts: Eric DeSobe; IG: / edesobe
Guest: Taylor Bostock; add her on LinkedIn
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